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Post by cowboy on May 12, 2011 7:11:06 GMT -5
K.Boocher has had a GREAT career.It's just that Emily Gwaltney had a GREAT season. a look at the stats shows that G batted 7 points higher and had 4 more homers and 6 more RBIs (with 16 more at bats) B went 16-4 with 2 saves with and ERA of 1.47 G went 15-5 with no saves..............ERA of 2.56 did Gwaltney have a better year than Boocher, who carried a young team to the regular season and tournament championships while being pitched around for much of the year until the newcomers began hitting?
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Post by gopilots on May 12, 2011 9:10:52 GMT -5
good stats cowboy
are these full season results or just conference? I think you have to look at who the competition is as well. I know that BC played a very tough schedule with 4 NAIA Top 25 teams in the mix (played ONU and St. Xavier twice).
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Post by Darth Tater on May 12, 2011 9:15:32 GMT -5
The MCC website is to promote the conference as a whole and you do it with factual information on the positives, not with biased opinion stories. That story is not at all positive to the other eight schools and is so far from being a positive story for the MCC website. I'd call it bush.
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Post by cshuntington on May 12, 2011 12:28:41 GMT -5
Excellent post Darth!
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Post by cowboy on May 12, 2011 14:20:16 GMT -5
I don't see anything in the story that is not true-obviously it's a Bethel article but it makes assertions that it does not justify
and i got the stats from the NAIA website and assume they are for the full season
don't know the rest but Boocher had the second best conference ERA in the nation at 0.13
Gwaltney does have more impressive hitting numbers but it's hard to find all the stats to make a clear comparison (do know the Gwaltney (.347)and Boocher (.348) were close in avg., but G had 19 RBIs to B's 14. what is impressive is how well Bethel as a team hit in conference.
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Post by Darth Tater on May 12, 2011 15:13:45 GMT -5
The story was never discredited because of non-truths in it. It was discredited because of its negativety and biased approach.
This story, an official story from Bethel athletics, is calling out student-athletes from other schools by name and saying they do not deserve credit for honors given to them. I think that is bad enough and looks awful on Bethel that it is on their page, let alone the MCC site.
This story is very unprofessional in my opinion and has no place in college athletics.
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Post by Darth Tater on May 12, 2011 15:22:08 GMT -5
I also don't agree with what the Bethel coach said at the end of the story. Even if you feel that way, what good is it to call out other coaches about feeling disrespected and how they performed the last so many years at nationals? If you want to use it as motivation within your team, great. But why bring it up, especially when you should be happy for your players for winning the conference tournament?
I really do not know much at all about the Bethel softball program. With this article being one of the very few I've seen on the program it leaves me a sour taste. And that is unfortunate because they have clearly set the standard high for the rest of the league.
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Post by cowboy on May 12, 2011 16:02:53 GMT -5
again, what in the article is not true--but I don't want to argue about it or take anything away from anyone, especially the kids--just seems a bit odd for a team not picked to win conference that wins conference does not win any of the major awards
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Post by WesleyTheWildcat on May 12, 2011 16:48:10 GMT -5
Cowboy,
It's not an argument of truth its an argument of class. While most would agree that Bethel had a right to disagree with the individual awards that were handed out they unfortunately left themselves open to criticism with a press release like the one in question. It comes across as very bitter and sarcastic and in the business of writing press releases that is something that you really must stay away from. Its not easy for sure as those of us who have been there can tell you its not always easy to hold back and not write what you feel but instead give an unbiased and accurate portrayal of the game.
Its not the end of the word by any means but I'm sure the person who wrote the article would probably tell you that it was a heat of the moment type of response and they probably let their emotions get the best of them.
Best of luck to BC moving forward with their postseason softball aspirations.
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Post by cshuntington on May 12, 2011 17:42:30 GMT -5
J.D Collins and Eric Smith(conf s.i.d) starting getting complaints from people,coaches that night.Because it was posted on the MCC website.Collins read it and quickly pulled it from the conf. website during the middle of the night.Eric Smith re-wrote it and did some changes to it because it sounded like the MCC was questioning the conf coaches for their all conf selections. I know several of the conf. coaches wanted Jeff Welsh to apologize to Emily Gwaltney(Marian)and Molly Long(HU) and to the rest of the conf. coaches for his write up.
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Post by cowboy on May 13, 2011 7:15:35 GMT -5
saying it is classless is a bit of a stretch but seems ironic that the coaches who are upset are the very ones who made the bad choices
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Post by Darth Tater on May 13, 2011 7:39:15 GMT -5
I can't see how you can justify or defend what was written. Its not and never was a matter of what his opinions were, its a matter of writing them on a release and actually posting them.
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Post by gopilots on May 13, 2011 16:05:33 GMT -5
Sounds to me like the MCC SID (Smith) didn't do his job in the first place. If all of the school SID's have the ability to post to the conference website without first clearing a story then why does the MCC pay for an SID? The barn door was closed after the horse escaped...
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Post by Darth Tater on May 13, 2011 20:45:02 GMT -5
Now its the conference SIDs fault? Very laughable.
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Post by WesleyTheWildcat on May 13, 2011 23:45:20 GMT -5
Yeah, the Conference SID gets paid to write press releases for all of the other schools in the conference?
What a joke this has become of BC people defending what was simply a heat of the moment decision and one that should not have happened. How would Pilot fans like it if another MCC school had an official press release on their website that basically stated that the Bethel coach and players didn't deserve their individual awards and they should have gone to their own players?
Its okay, people make mistakes but don't place blame on the MCC SID because he had absolutely nothing to do with it. The Conference SID is paid (which I'm sure is very little) to update the website in regards to weekly and seasonal awards and make sure there is new content, not to police the opinions of the institutional SID's who are entrusted to use common sense when posting releases there.
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