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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 14:48:02 GMT -5
Great win for the Foresters. Conference rater -- - - - - - - DO YOU GET IT? What exactly is the conference rater supposed to "get" ? Didn't this same Huntington Team lose to a Grace team that started their Crossroads League campaign 0-5? There have been numerous threads illustrating how bottlenecked the league has been this year. I'm certainly not jealous of the rater, as the incredible parity would make power rankings quite challenging. Huntington is a good team, and this is a very impressive win, but if the rater ranked on such a knee-jerk reaction each week, you'd see some pretty interesting results.
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Post by rubalamp on Feb 15, 2014 7:47:33 GMT -5
Huntington has now beat Bethel 2 times this season...they can no longer be ranked lower than them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 15:19:49 GMT -5
Matt Moore's main job is to get as many teams to Branson as possible...and seeing how he has so many in the Top 25 as well as Grace Receiving Votes I'd say he's doing his job effectively. Okay, I'm going to take very, very strong exception to that statement. It is not the rater's job to get as many of his conference's teams in the national tournament. He may think it is (in whatever conference, I mean - I'm not thinking of Coach Moore specifically at all; just the raters in general), but it's not. The rater's job is to make sure that the teams in his conference get a fair shake on the national scene - that they are not ranked too high, and also that their ranking is not inflated. This is not supposed to be a political thing - it's supposed to be an honest and fair assessment of the ranking of each and every team that gets votes. I know - some of you will probably think I'm naïve in saying this. And that's fine. But as a follower of a WHAC team, I would be really ticked off if I found, say, the rater from the CCC or the CCAC politicking to get more one or more teams to Branson from his conference at the expense of one or more teams from my conference that might be deserving, but who have gotten unfairly excluded. And also - intra-conference parity is ambiguous. We tend to think that parity within our own conference means a lot of our teams are really good, or at least solid, whereas parity in a rival conference just means no team in that conference is very good. You can't have it both ways. Unfortunately, I probably am naïve in the sense that this kind of politicking, "I'm going to get 6 teams from my conference to Branson" attitude probably happens a lot. Too bad really. Where is the integrity in such a situation?
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Post by tamrik on Feb 17, 2014 16:37:29 GMT -5
Huntington has now beat Bethel 2 times this season...they can no longer be ranked lower than them. While anything can happen, worst case for Huntington is probably a loss to USF and a win over Taylor. Best case for Bethel, they win out. At that point they are tied and HU wins the head-to-head. It's my opinion that HU should now be rated higher than Bethel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 22:28:44 GMT -5
So how do all you CL-ers feel about the latest conference ranking? Is the controversy resolved now? Crossroads League 1. Indiana Wesleyan (13-3 / 23-5) 2. Huntington (Ind.) (12-4 / 23-5) 3. Bethel (Ind.) (11-5 / 22-6) 4. Saint Francis (Ind.) (11-5 / 19-9) 4. Marian (Ind.) (11-5 / 15-6) 6. Grace (Ind.) (8-8 / 16-11)
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Post by blue2blue on Feb 18, 2014 8:39:20 GMT -5
Sounds about right to me.
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Post by cougars13 on Feb 18, 2014 10:25:22 GMT -5
So how do all you CL-ers feel about the latest conference ranking? Is the controversy resolved now? Crossroads League 1. Indiana Wesleyan (13-3 / 23-5) 2. Huntington (Ind.) (12-4 / 23-5) 3. Bethel (Ind.) (11-5 / 22-6) 4. Saint Francis (Ind.) (11-5 / 19-9) 4. Marian (Ind.) (11-5 / 15-6) 6. Grace (Ind.) (8-8 / 16-11) Not sure USF and Marian should be tied considering USF beat them twice, but if it keeps both ranked it's better for the conference. 15-6 is better than 19-9, but USF has played maybe the toughest schedule in the country. Again, if it keeps Marian ranked I'm for it, but USF is clearly the superior team.
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