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Post by jbh on Feb 11, 2014 21:17:04 GMT -5
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Post by tmcbd on Feb 11, 2014 22:11:59 GMT -5
Great game by 2 good teams, congrats to Huntington. Hinen was the difference and after Bethel let him score 18 pts in the 2nd half at Bethel you had to believe we would guard him differently, sadly we didn't. He scored the 1st 7 points of the game with a smaller player guarding him and hit a 3 to start the 2nd half with the same match up. Coach Platt took advantage of the match up and kudos to him for exploiting it. Hopefully we see them again and maybe we change it up, I heard he had 33 tonight but not sure, very nice player. Curious as to what others saw?
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Post by jbh on Feb 12, 2014 5:56:47 GMT -5
Hinen had a great game for HU. Benner had a great game for BC.
Also thought the officiating in this game was solid. The three called a very consistant game. Think that the Bethel fans in attendance would have to agree.
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Post by The Pilot on Feb 12, 2014 7:13:38 GMT -5
HU shot 62 percent from the field (31-of-50) and 59 percent from downtown (13-of-22).
Enough said.
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Post by jbh on Feb 12, 2014 8:43:08 GMT -5
HU shot 62 percent from the field (31-of-50) and 59 percent from downtown (13-of-22). Enough said. With Hinen shooting 11-13, and the other 3 Freshmen playing shooting 5-7, the Freshman percent was 80%. Not too shabby!!! |
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Post by jr563400 on Feb 12, 2014 9:51:03 GMT -5
Great game by 2 good teams, congrats to Huntington. Hinen was the difference and after Bethel let him score 18 pts in the 2nd half at Bethel you had to believe we would guard him differently, sadly we didn't. He scored the 1st 7 points of the game with a smaller player guarding him and hit a 3 to start the 2nd half with the same match up. Coach Platt took advantage of the match up and kudos to him for exploiting it. Hopefully we see them again and maybe we change it up, I heard he had 33 tonight but not sure, very nice player. Curious as to what others saw? If Bethel plays together they are very good. When they try to do everything off of the dribble (one on one)they are not nearly as succesful. Offensivley when Schauss settles for jumpers and does not get to the rim, Oetting does not get involved in the post, and Miller stands in the corner and does not get 3pt looks, they are an average team. (As good as Benner played) most teams can defeat one player (SAU), but when a team comes out balanced they are hard to defeat. Bethel must play as a unit. This effort caries over to the defensive end of the floor and Huntington lite up the Bethel defense. Why Bethel did not go out of roatation (face guard and deny) Hinen I am not sure. the freshman lite up the Pilots the last time they played and he took it up a step this time. All of the credit goes to Huntington, they just out played the Pilots and deserved to win the game. The Pilots will bounce back and should end up in Branson. |
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Post by blue2blue on Feb 12, 2014 10:33:48 GMT -5
I agree with jr563400. BC is very capable of playing a complete game. They played less than that apparently at HU and still made it close. HU shot an unreal pct., can't count on that at Branson, at least not past the first round when they would likely face easier competition. IF, with a capital IF, BC shows up and plays hard they can have some success at Branson. With their experience and balance I think their chances are better at Branson to go deeper into tournament than Huntington. Merryman is a quality player, but how much help will he get from his squad? I think HU has been a surprise to some of us, but they are winning, give them credit. I just don't think they can count on shooting 60% or better every game.
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Post by The Pilot on Feb 12, 2014 12:18:36 GMT -5
Coming into the game HU has been shooting 50% from the field, and 40% from 3.
Live and die by the 3. I have a feeling this will come back to haunt the Foresters in the future.
Lets not act like BC didn't do a good job on defense. They did force 22 turnovers (BC had 13). Just seemed like HU could not miss.
Pilots also outscored HU in:
Bench Scoring: 26-10
Points in the Paint: 40-26
Points off Turnovers: 23-6
BC beats any other team they would've played last night with those stats.
Not very many teams are going to lose on a night when they shoot 62% from the field and 59% from 3, making 13. I think that's a positive for us.
All in all, Bethel was lucky to be in this game at all with the way HU shot the ball.
The Pilots still did shoot 50% themselves from the field, and 8-16 (50%) from 3.
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Post by seenit on Feb 12, 2014 12:20:34 GMT -5
Great win for the Foresters. Conference rater -- - - - - - - DO YOU GET IT?  What does the rater have to do with this game, I am confused? Aren't good team suppose to win home games-I think Huntington is a Elite Eight team from what I have seen. Very big with multitude ways of getting points. I know defense matters but I like teams that can score and Huntington can score! |
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Post by tamrik on Feb 12, 2014 17:22:22 GMT -5
Hinen had a great game for HU. Benner had a great game for BC. Also thought the officiating in this game was solid. The three called a very consistant game. Think that the Bethel fans in attendance would have to agree. I thought it was an ancient proverb: If Bethel lost, then the refs were terrible...  |
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Post by rubalamp on Feb 12, 2014 22:23:17 GMT -5
Huntington can't always count on playing a team as terrible at defense as Bethel is....
That is the summary for this thread.
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Post by jbh on Feb 13, 2014 6:12:45 GMT -5
Great win for the Foresters. Conference rater -- - - - - - - DO YOU GET IT? What does the rater have to do with this game, I am confused? Aren't good team suppose to win home games-I think Huntington is a Elite Eight team from what I have seen. Very big with multitude ways of getting points. I know defense matters but I like teams that can score and Huntington can score! Did not say or even hint that the rater had anything to do with the game!!!! My point simply was - - - - - - HU and BC had identical win/loss record when last rating from him was done. And, HU had beaten BC on BC's home court. Why did he rate Bethel ahead of Huntington? Made no sense!!! Therefore my statement - - - DO YOU GET IT? |
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Post by jbh on Feb 13, 2014 6:17:45 GMT -5
As far as Branson - - - There are three games to play, so a lot could change, but, IWU, USF, BC, HU, and MU should all be there!!!!!!!!! Won't happen, but should!!!
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Post by jr563400 on Feb 13, 2014 10:24:42 GMT -5
Huntington can't always count on playing a team as terrible at defense as Bethel is.... That is the summary for this thread. Bethel's defense is not terrible. They just ran into a hot shooting team and could not shut them down. How many teams shoot the ball as well as Huntington did on Tuesday night? Not many! Bethel has defeated at least 6 top 25 teams this season to my knowledge. That in itself is a statement. The next three games are huge for the Pilots, the Grace game is the one that worries me as they are playing pretty well at times. The rest of the league will beat up on itself over the next 3 games and hopefully Bethel will end up in 2nd, or at least tied for 2nd! Five of Bethel's six losses have conme in league play, since Hostess went belly up cupcakes are few and far between in the Crossroads this season. |
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Post by The Pilot on Feb 13, 2014 11:37:43 GMT -5
What does the rater have to do with this game, I am confused? Aren't good team suppose to win home games-I think Huntington is a Elite Eight team from what I have seen. Very big with multitude ways of getting points. I know defense matters but I like teams that can score and Huntington can score! Did not say or even hint that the rater had anything to do with the game!!!! My point simply was - - - - - - HU and BC had identical win/loss record when last rating from him was done. And, HU had beaten BC on BC's home court. Why did he rate Bethel ahead of Huntington? Made no sense!!! Therefore my statement - - - DO YOU GET IT? I think you may be taking the rating too personal. Matt Moore's main job is to get as many teams to Branson as possible...and seeing how he has so many in the Top 25 as well as Grace Receiving Votes I'd say he's doing his job effectively. There are many different factors into how a rater ranks the teams. Here are some possibilities: --Last 7 games: Bethel (7-0) Huntington (4-3). --Bethel is only 1 of 2 teams to shoot above .500 FG% and .400 3-pt % WHILE holding opponents under .42- FG% and .333 3-pt% (only other team is Southern Oregon) --Bethel is only 1 of 3 teams that have made more free throws than their opponents have attempted (Dordt and Southeastern are the others) --Only 1 of 4 teams with a +15 scoring margin (Cornerstone, Southeastern, IU-East and Union are the others) --#10 Strength of Schedule (7 wins over Top 40 Massey rated teams (with 4 on the road, 1 on neutral floor). --Bethel has more TRUE road wins than home wins --They have 0 losses outside of the Crossroads League and 5 wins over NAIA Top 25 or RV teams (with 2 on the road and 1 on neutral floor) (IWU, USF, MU, Madonna, Northwood) --When Huntington defeated Bethel by 2 Zach Miller was not 100% and recovering from his concussion. Since his return Bethel had been playing extremely well. The point is, don't take it personal that the rater placed you 3rd. Next week it'll most certainly flip-flop (pending games this Saturday). The rater's main job is to get teams to the NAIA tournament and in seeing his methods, he has a good system to ensure the best conference gets the most teams in. |
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