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Post by Kyle Feller on Jun 11, 2012 16:30:09 GMT -5
NCAA teams can text/call recruits as much as they want.
Somewhere Kelvin Sampson smiles.....
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Post by huisrealgood on Jun 11, 2012 16:58:58 GMT -5
NCAA teams can text/call recruits as much as they want. Somewhere Kelvin Sampson smiles..... Terrible rule IMO. These kids are inundated by letters, e-mails, facebook messages, etc from college coaches as it is. Now add in unlimited texting/calling... I wouldn't want to be the parent of a top college prospect right now  |
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Post by rubalamp on Jun 12, 2012 11:06:37 GMT -5
They could always choose not to have a cell number or not to give it out...
I really have a hard time feeling sorry for these kids.
However, one thing that I have considered more lately is the transfer rules...and honestly, they aren't fair. The NCAA shouldn't be able to limit students from transferring. It may suck if it happens, but it isn't fair to punish a kid for transferring. If athletes aren't allowed to receive any perks that students at large can't get, they also shouldn't be hindered by restrictions that do not hinder all students either.
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Post by MapleLeaf99 on Jun 12, 2012 12:27:34 GMT -5
However, one thing that I have considered more lately is the transfer rules...and honestly, they aren't fair. I tend to agree. If coaches can go from one school to another without any restrictions to speak of, why shouldn't players have the same luxury? |
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Post by cowboy on Jun 12, 2012 15:27:58 GMT -5
let's just re-recruit every year--everyone is fair game
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Post by rubalamp on Jun 13, 2012 13:53:36 GMT -5
If the coach does what he promises and gives the student a good experience, I think most people will still stay put.
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Post by huisrealgood on Jun 13, 2012 14:41:48 GMT -5
If the coach does what he promises and gives the student a good experience, I think most people will still stay put. How naive you are. These college athletes are delusional sometimes. Most think they are exponentially better than they are because many of them grew up being "the guy" on whatever team they played on and so they think it will automatically be the same way in college. When they get a rude awakening and don't get the playing time they feel they inherently "deserve" they transfer to a different school for the promise of greener pastures. Many times, they're in the same situation at their new destination. Do you realize that transfers were at an all time high this off-season (over 400)? And that's with the current restrictions intact. If players were allowed to go wherever they wanted without the restriction of a year sitting out, you would see guys jumping ship their junior year to a contender for their senior year like all of the 5th year transfers are with the current loophole now. Mid-Majors would get looted every year any of their underclassmen had a good year. Is that really what you want to see Mr. Butler lover? I think it's bad for basketball and so I'm fine with the current system. To help illustrate my "delusional player" theory I'll tell you this story. There was a friend of mine who talked to DJ Richardson of Illinois before this past season, and DJ was talking about how with a good season he was thinking of leaving a year early for the NBA. Really DJ?!? He doesn't have the size or the skill to be an NBA player. He wasn't even the 3rd best player on the team last year. Here's an article on the increased transfers: www.boston.com/sports/colleges/mens_basketball/articles/2012/06/03/more_than_ever_college_basketball_seems_rife_with_transfers/ |
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Post by rubalamp on Jun 14, 2012 12:44:21 GMT -5
Yes, players are delusional...but at some point the system breaks, people figure out how to take advantage...
Think it is interesting you mention Butler...I am not sure any of those guys would have transferred. They genuinely always seem to love what they were doing and the coach they were doing it with...Sure you would have a lot of players doing what Kentucky does now...take advantage of the reputation for being the NBDL Collegiate team. Some woudl be successful, some would see egos destroy teams and people would adjust their recruitment strategy.
The way we are heading now, I don't understand why we don't just pay them and call it what it is...Pro basketball. These kids make it their life, and the schools own them to a large extent.
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Post by WesleyTheWildcat on Jun 14, 2012 13:00:09 GMT -5
Eliminating the limits on texts and phone calls simply makes it legal for what many were already doing. I believe this rule change to be a good one since it limits the amount of monitoring the schools themselves have to do on coaches.
Calling and/or texting a player a lot is not an unethical practice. Paying players and providing gifts, etc. for their "services" is a big problem and will continue to be a the highest level of NCAA sports. This is what I think the NCAA has their focus on as it brings the most negative light.
Allowing student-athletes to transfer without consequences is asking for HUGE problems. Yes, the kids who really enjoy their experience would most likely stay where they are at. But as huisrealgood mentioned, there is always the grass is greener other places mindset. Couple that with college coaches openly recruiting other players from other institutions and I think you have things run wild.
I can't think of a worse idea than paying collegiate STUDENT-athletes. Many want to complain about how the universities are making millions off the top-level student-athletes and that they deserve a piece of that pie. Bull. Whether they are there for an education or not, that is what the universities stand for. They are RECEIVING an education, much of the time for free. That is their pay and only they can choose to take advantage of it. If they are talented enough to become a professional they will be paid for their talents.
I am openly oppossed to the NBA rule of requiring one year in college. I think its wise for a student to attend college before jumping to the NBA but I don't think it is right to require it. Limiting a person's ability to earn a living is not the collective decision of the NCAA and NBA in my opinion. It may be good for the NCAA and March Madness but I feel for the kids who know they want to be professional players, have the ability and desire, yet they are limited by an unfair rule in my opinion.
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Post by rubalamp on Jun 14, 2012 17:12:28 GMT -5
I don't know if it would really be all that crazy...At the end of the day there are still only so many scholarships available. And there are HS kids that still need to be recruited. I still also would envision it to be against policy to have coaches openly recruiting kids who have made commitments elsewhere, or who have not confirmed their transfer intentions.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 16, 2012 7:36:08 GMT -5
Just because you can pull out all the stops does not mean it is a good thing--I have heard of kids who are turned off by a huge recruiting effort (which can just seem desperate)--and, again, if kids can transfer without consequences then 1) they are just kids signing one year contracts (or can you transfer mid season 2) coaches can recruit any player all year long which gives the sleazy coaches even more temptation
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Post by rubalamp on Jun 16, 2012 15:06:56 GMT -5
They still only have 13 scholarships...I don't think it would be as terrible as you are thinking...My guess is, if the number was all that high...it would likely be players who are mediocre that want out to get a better chance to play at a smaller school or guys who think they are studs but aren't getting the chance they deserve...some who may be able to prove it, and many who still will find that they are their own worst enemies.
For the upper echelon players, they will still be looking to go pro in one year. At the end of the day, I don't think it would be a huge impact...I really don't...Sleazy coaches will still be sleazy coaches. But even the sleaziest can only have 13 players getting contracts at the start of each season.
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