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Post by radiodavel on Feb 7, 2011 18:59:10 GMT -5
IHSAA reclassification hits 39 schools interesting, we have several links to stories and thoughts and comments on the changes...long way from the old days and "one class" www.theseniorreports.com/nationals.htm(Under Indiana Heading) |
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Post by bluestreak on Feb 8, 2011 14:44:00 GMT -5
biggest change state-wide, in bball atleast (and other 4class sports) is seeing Broad Ripple drop from 4A to 2A. Wow.
Also having Mucie Centrl in 3A for bball could mean numerous deep tourny runs for them and Bowman in 2A will could make for interesting Northern Semi-State match-ups with the Luers of 2A.
...man, we are approaching almost 15 years with class bball. Watching the Clay vs. Valpo State Championship game this weekend on instant sports classics shows how much the time of 1-class ball has flown by.
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Post by Kyle Feller on Feb 8, 2011 15:27:57 GMT -5
Lets just give everybody a trophy and a firetruck ride.
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Post by foresterpride on Feb 8, 2011 16:28:07 GMT -5
Many IPS schools are becoming magnet (special focus) schools. You will also see Crispus Attucks and Shortridge become high schools again, some are dropping sports all together.
Also, FWCS have cut what 2 schools.
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Post by radiodavel on Feb 8, 2011 20:44:04 GMT -5
Harding is an East Allen Co school playing in the Summit, talk is they will come back as a magnet school in the future...the lost of Elmhurst did effect a couple of those schools...
KF, nothing wrong with class basketball, ask any of the schools who won a state title since the change if they want to go back...
lived in Ohio for many years with Class athletics, not a bad thing...
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Post by foresterpride on Feb 9, 2011 12:27:33 GMT -5
If class basketball is so great, why are people so up in arms about private schools winning everything in the lower classes? Couldn't they see that coming?
And why aren't schools filling their gyms on Friday & Saturday nights? And why are coaches still very much against it?
I love how Ohioans always think they know what is best.
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Post by MapleLeaf99 on Feb 9, 2011 12:48:19 GMT -5
With changing to class basketball, adopting daylight savings time and firing Coach Knight, I'm surprised the world hasn't ended by now.
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Post by radiodavel on Feb 9, 2011 12:47:36 GMT -5
FP....ok, I'm game why? tell us why....show me where coaches don't like it? that would be interesting to see those facts...
don't live in Ohio...live in Illinois...
colleges have divisions as well, even the NAIA in basketball...
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Post by huisrealgood on Feb 9, 2011 13:25:51 GMT -5
FP....ok, I'm game why? tell us why....show me where coaches don't like it? that would be interesting to see those facts... don't live in Ohio...live in Illinois... colleges have divisions as well, even the NAIA in basketball... Don't worry rd... there are just some things that Hoosiers get up in arms about that just aren't a big deal. The rest of us non-natives will never understand why they're creating such a big fuss over nothing. It is what it is. |
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Post by Kyle Feller on Feb 9, 2011 14:24:07 GMT -5
KF, nothing wrong with class basketball, ask any of the schools who won a state title since the change if they want to go back... Great......but do they really think they are state champions? I was fortunate enough to grow up in a small town that had some success in the REAL state tournament. I'm very good friends with several guys that won the first ever 2A state championship....and across the board, winning the Anderson Sectional/Regional would have been a much bigger deal to them. |
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Post by Kyle Feller on Feb 9, 2011 14:25:30 GMT -5
FP....ok, I'm game why? tell us why....show me where coaches don't like it? that would be interesting to see those facts... don't live in Ohio...live in Illinois... colleges have divisions as well, even the NAIA in basketball... Don't worry rd... there are just some things that Hoosiers get up in arms about that just aren't a big deal. The rest of us non-natives will never understand why they're creating such a big fuss over nothing. It is what it is. As a kid you didn't grow up looking at the High School players as your heros. You didn't feel a sense of "Us vs. Them" when you walked into a gym filled with 9,000 people for a Thursday Night Sectional Opener. There is a reason Indiana THE Basketball State, it's not really up to out of staters with their 47 classes and self esteem crap to care. |
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Post by radiodavel on Feb 9, 2011 14:50:53 GMT -5
so you guys are saying it is no big deal that St Francis won the NAIA National Championship in basketball last season because there is 3 divisions in the NCAA, 2 in the NAIA, 2 in the NCCAA, 2 in the USCAA and a bunch in NJCAA...
I think the SFU folks would see it different...
who made the change in Indiana to multiple divisions? IHSAA member schools and I'm sure it had to be a majority...
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Post by Kyle Feller on Feb 9, 2011 14:56:50 GMT -5
You're the fifth person in my life that's tried to make this comparison with me......and it just doesn't fit very well.
High School you're picking players that are in your area...you're not (well most aren't) using budgets to recruit players to their institutions. Ohio State can spend millions recruiting players....Oregon Tech can't. Ohio State can offer kids games on national television with NBA futures...Oregon Tech can't. NAIA is fun...I enjoy it, but there is a COMPLETELY different type of athlete playing at Ohio State than Oregon Tech.
Indiana Principals made the change to multiple divisions.....make sure you take into account the polls that were taken (I filled one out myself) that players across the took leading up to the vote. You also should take into account the polls that fans took as well. The only people that wanted it were principals of small schools who had crappy programs then.....and still do today.
In this life, you're supposed to learn that there are failures and successes in life. If you tell a kid from Fairmount, IN that he can't play basketball at the same level as kids from Fort Wayne....why not just tell the same kid that he'll never be able to get a job at Microsoft because there are kids from bigger towns going for the same job? It's a cop out....
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Post by goshen32 on Feb 9, 2011 15:01:45 GMT -5
Sorry I was late to the battle Kyle.
The ONE thing that is cool about this latest reclassification is in Muncie, all the schools are 3A, so it's a little like the old sectionals.
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Post by Kyle Feller on Feb 9, 2011 15:05:22 GMT -5
Maybe they can start getting 7500 people in the Muncie Fieldhouse again!
Either way......most 1A and 2A State Championship teams wouldn't make it out of their sectionals in the original state tournament format. And with all due respect.....I'm willing to bet that 0% of all people involved with St. Francis Basketball thinks they are REALLY one of the best teams in the nation. They would struggle to break the Top 15 in Indiana.....
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