IHSAA AT IT AGAIN

[Kyle Feller]

How is this even possible? If a team wins a state championship two years in a row, they move them up a class to make it more fair for the rest of the schools? When will the madness stop? Will our kids ever have the opportunity to learn how to COMPETE without crutches put in place by our "teachers and administrators" that are supposed to be helping the development of young men/women?

Will kids from small schools only be allowed to apply to small colleges since it's probably unfair to have their academic resumes put up against the academics at larger high schools that provide more courses? Will job interviews be balanced based on size of school?

www.indystar.com/article/20101123/SPORTS02/11230367/IHSAA-ponders-competition-clause-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

[huisrealgood]

Couldn't this also be viewed as one program getting the chance to COMPETE with the big boys like what used to happen without class basketball? I just see two sides to this coin and think you are looking for reasons to complain.

[QuietCop]

I have heard it has to do with the smaller class private schools that can basically recruit and are always winning the State championships in football.

[huisrealgood]

I know Illinois basically put in a multiplier for private schools. I think it was something like 1.2 x's your enrollment determined what class you're in. For example

Private School X has an enrollment of 500 students.
Public School Y has an enrollment of 500 students

Class A is for schools with an enrollment of 1-599
Class B is for schools with an enrollment of 600-1,000

Public School Y would be in Class A because they don't have a multiplier
Private School X would be in Class B because of the multiplier which gives them a count of 600.

Does that make sense?

[blue2blue]

Shiloh Christian is the football power in Arkansas. All 192 students in the school, several who just happen to be 6-5 and 300 or so pounds. Their qb is already committed to a D1 school and several others likely will go D1 as well. The multiplier is also used in Arkansas, I believe it's like 1.5. Shiloh would qualify as 1A sizewise, but they are in 4A and are heavy favorites to win the state title again. They regularly score 50 or 60 points and just aren't challenged. They feast not only on 4A schools, but during the season beat up on 6A and 7A schools as well. They are quite unpopular in the state, but they really don't care. Gus Malzahn, now OC at Auburn began his career there and is at least partly responsible for their success. I don't know the fascination of these guys who choose to go there instead of the school in their district, but Shiloh 'recruits' very well each and every year, to the chagrin of the rest of the state.

[huisrealgood]

I remember Illinois recruiting a kid from Shiloh last year. He ended up getting hurt and Illinois decided not to take his commitment, but I became a bit more familiar with their impressive program and their reputation as well.

[clinttjohnson]

For volleyball, it would be good in terms of Muncie Burris. Muncie Burris has a powerhouse volleyball team that is nationally ranked. It had beaten both 4A state finalists, and yet had to play in the 2A State Finals. They would have won 4A EASILY this yr!

[rubalamp]

The other thing this doesn't seem to take into consideration is that schools are fluid. If there is a remarkable talent at a smaller school, or a couple that happen to do really well for 2-3 years and they win a couple state titles, they move up. What happens when those kids graduate or get recruited elsewhere, now that team has moved up a level and are constantly beat on again at the higher level. Is there an amount of failure that could drop schools down a level too?

[coachdawg]

I can't believe I read a post about high school kids being recruited by other high schools. The IHSAA has been telling over and over again that high school coaches don't recruit! Parochial schools don't recruit - that's a vicious rumor.