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Post by pilotseason on May 21, 2014 13:29:23 GMT -5
For the sake of argument... This year's Final Four participants and NCAA D1 transfers from each school:
Indiana Wesleyan, champions: RJ Mahurin (Indiana State- MVC) Midland, runners-up: None Southeastern, semifinalist: None Robert Morris, semifinalist: Demarko Nash (UT-Pan American- WAC), Cortney Bell (Prairie View A&M- SWAC), Sean Montgomery (Chicago State- WAC)
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Post by Axman on May 21, 2014 16:46:14 GMT -5
Okay, D1 or JUCO transfers...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 19:43:53 GMT -5
I wonder if it helps, or might help, to differentiate between different "types" of D1/D2/D3 transfers. For example, some guys who choose to play D2 are often recruited aggressively by NAIA D2 schools. Then their experience at their D2 school is not what they thought it would be, and so they end up transferring to an NAIA D2 program - one that they very nearly signed with in the first place. As an example - at CU, we've had some success that was due, to a significant degree, to transfers. Our 2011 national championship team included Bryan Pasciak from Rockford. We recruited Bryan when he was in high school, but he chose to go to Ferris State (D2) and played for the Bulldogs for two years before transferring to CU. Bryan Foltice (If your name is Bryan, you have to spell it with a "y" to play at CU!) transferred after two years at Calvin (D3) and helping lead them to a national championship. He played his last years at CU, and his two teams won a WHAC tournament and played in two NAIA D2 Fab Fours. This past year a huge part of our success was Ben Lanning, whom we recruited out of Grandville High School, but who chose to go to Grand Valley (D2). He played there for a year, then left to go to school at Grand Rapids Community College for the Fall semester, where he did not play basketball. He then transferred to CU mid year and was on the practice squad, and was on the roster this season. I say all that to say transfers such as these (guys you very nearly got, but who opted for Door #2 instead of Door #!) are much more likely to fit right in with the team they nearly went to in the first place. Other schools typically recruit 2nd year JuCo players (or CoCo players! routinely - teams like Indiana Tech, among others, for instance. My own observations of teams such as these is, though they often have some success, it is often difficult to sustain. That is, these teams typically don't have multi-season success, and often don't even get to Branson, much less make deep runs in the national tournament. Personally, I don't think that NAIA D2 teams can have long term success if they primarily recruit such players. A team will be more successful if they recruit high schoolers and develop them for four years - this is a better niche for them. Any thoughts?
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Post by Axman on May 26, 2014 15:17:29 GMT -5
The following to Grace:
Austin Leisling, 5'9" PG, Lewis Cass Drew Schermerhorn, 6'4" SG, West Noble
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Post by The Pilot on May 27, 2014 8:41:00 GMT -5
The following to Grace: Austin Leisling, 5'9" PG, Lewis Cass Drew Schermerhorn, 6'4" SG, West Noble These guys have to be JV adds, but I've added them.
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Post by pilotseason on May 28, 2014 9:38:50 GMT -5
is Drew Schermerhorn any relation to the former Holy Cross coach Bob Schermerhorn?
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Post by blue2blue on Jun 12, 2014 16:40:11 GMT -5
ELKHART — Kenny Bearss — he of the the double s — will pursue a sports double in college.
The Elkhart Christian Academy graduate has signed a letter of intent to continue his academic and athletic careers at Bethel College, where he plans to play both baseball and basketball for the Mishawaka school.
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Post by foresterpride on Jun 12, 2014 17:07:23 GMT -5
Austin keisling averaged 18pts per game and is a top 60 player. Doesn't seem like a JV player. Sound like a starting pt guard.
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Post by The Pilot on Jun 18, 2014 13:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by tamrik on Jun 20, 2014 10:48:57 GMT -5
Shermerhorn averaged 18.5 points, 4.5 rebounds, 2.2 assists and 1.8 steals per game as a senior. Earned a spot in the top 100. Sounds like he will be contributing as well.
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Post by midwestmastermind on Jun 23, 2014 13:09:15 GMT -5
This forum has been awfully quiet lately. I really believe the top of the WHAC would dominate the Crossroads this year. Davenport, Cornerstone, and believe it, or not, UNOH would run roughshod through the Crossroads this year, aside from maybe IWU.
All three look to have ridiculous recruiting classes for this level
Indiana Tech, Marygrove, and UM-Dearborn have all added quality players to their rosters as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 20:34:09 GMT -5
This forum has been awfully quiet lately. I really believe the top of the WHAC would dominate the Crossroads this year. Davenport, Cornerstone, and believe it, or not, UNOH would run roughshod through the Crossroads this year, aside from maybe IWU. All three look to have ridiculous recruiting classes for this level Indiana Tech, Marygrove, and UM-Dearborn have all added quality players to their rosters as well. This is a bit off the topic of the thread, but as one of the few WHAC guys who drops by here, let me give you some of my thoughts. First of all, the CL is better than the WHAC and has been for some time. Until we prove it in the regular season, that's the way it is. Once again, the WHAC/CL Challenge has Aquinas, Cornerstone, Spring Arbor, and Indiana Wesleyan - this should be an early indicator of how these leagues are doing. IWU is the reigning regular season CL champ, and CU is the reigning WHAC champ (regular season and tournament). I think Spring Arbor will be a tough opponent for both CU and Aquinas, but I don't see either Aquinas or CU beating Indiana Wesleyan. I agree that Davenport and Cornerstone will be as good as anyone in the CL on any given day. UNOH appears to be up and coming. They are a bit like Indiana Tech - they bring in a lot of JuCos from year to year. However, they have some big gaps to fill - Johnny Elliot, Blake Bush, Derrick Tate and Cody Henson were all seniors last year, but they have some quality talent coming back - Ed Jenkins being as tough as any guard in the WHAC, imo. Madonna loses a lot this year, including perhaps the best starting backcourt in the WHAC, at least offensively - Bobby Naubert and Travis Schuba. In addition, Matt Jenkins, Derrick Lennon, and Fred Williams were all seniors last year as well - that's 4 of last year's 5 starters leaving the program. Lourdes and Indiana Tech are wild cards - both teams will have some significant holes to fill, but both seem to find not only some tough local talent, but also bring in some outstanding transfers (especially Indiana Tech). I think the WHAC might be a better conference this year potentially (that is, I think the WHAC could have a winning record vs. the CL for the first time in a long time!), but I'm going to take a wait and see attitude on that one!
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Post by The Pilot on Jun 29, 2014 17:46:17 GMT -5
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Post by overthehill on Jun 30, 2014 8:00:58 GMT -5
He should be a game changer right out of the gate.
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Post by blue2blue on Jun 30, 2014 13:19:26 GMT -5
A great signing. He is of similar size to Benner and Schauss but very athletic, can jump with the big guys. He should help from day one, won't be surprised if he starts. Big- time shooter, behind the 3 pt. arc for sure. Schauss, Miller and Yeo provide a lot of offense. Next season sounds exciting. Need one or more of the young bigs coming in to help inside, but it's a great class coming in plus the redshirts
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